Mosque gets Ok...

**pvfan** · August 5th, 2010, 11:11 PM

I'd love to know who is funding this religious community center. R13, do you know? I seriously don't, I have my doubts it is all on the up and up. Feisal Abdul Rauf is claiming he wants to bridge the gap between Islam and western civilization yet earlier this year he claimed he did not want religious dialogue .

**Monkeyhead** · August 6th, 2010, 10:37 AM

It's easier to do a takeover when your being friendly

**R13** · August 8th, 2010, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by pvfan

I'd love to know who is funding this religious community center. R13, do you know? I seriously don't, I have my doubts it is all on the up and up. Feisal Abdul Rauf is claiming he wants to bridge the gap between Islam and western civilization yet earlier this year he claimed he did not want religious dialogue .

Yeah, looked that up, doesn't look like he said that. He says he doesn't like the phrase, because it doesn't equal results.

This phrase is inaccurate. Religious dialogue as customarily understood is a set of events with discussions in large hotels that result in nothing. Religions do not dialogue and dialogue is not present in the attitudes of the followers, regardless of being Muslim or Christian. The image of Muslims in the West is complex which needs to be remedied.

I figured it would have been twisted by some anti-islam blog or something and that's exactly what happened.

Originally Posted by Monkeyhead

It's easier to do a takeover when your being friendly

They should probably get it in gear when they make up about 1/2 of 1 percent of the population.

**pvfan** · August 9th, 2010, 10:13 AM

"the American political structure is Sharia compliant," "For America to score even higher on the 'Islamic' or 'Sharia' compliance scale, America would need to do two things: invite the voices of all religions to join the dialogue in shaping the nation's practical life, and allow religious communities more leeway to judge among themselves according to their own laws." Iman Feisal Abdul Rauf

You support this guy if you want, I know what has gone on in Europe and don't want it happening on my soil.

**R13** · August 9th, 2010, 03:19 PM

Paste it in and get the same thing, twisted quotes by right-wing and anti-islamic blogs. Should have listened to the Rabbi on CNN speak so highly of what he has done.

What's happened in Europe exactly? There's more instances of discrimination against muslims than elsewhere, that's what I've seen, I wouldn't want that happening here. But again, they make up a very tiny, tiny part of the population...a lot of uproar over nothing.

**pvfan** · August 9th, 2010, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by R13

Paste it in and get the same thing, twisted quotes by right-wing and anti-islamic blogs. Should have listened to the Rabbi on CNN speak so highly of what he has done.

What's happened in Europe exactly? There's more instances of discrimination against muslims than elsewhere, that's what I've seen, I wouldn't want that happening here. But again, they make up a very tiny, tiny part of the population...a lot of uproar over nothing.

For everybody's sake I hope you are right. I can't change his words only put what he says.

**R13** · August 10th, 2010, 01:40 AM

So PVfan, what is your issue with the complex/mosque being built? Just curious.

**pvfan** · August 13th, 2010, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by R13

So PVfan, what is your issue with the complex/mosque being built? Just curious.

It's just rude. Honestly, why not build the thing somewhere else? It would be like the KKK building something in Selma. It's just not the right thing to do. FWIW, I don't think it will ever be built. They wont get the money to fund it unless they get it from a terrorist organization. If that does happen, the government will catch on and put the stop to it. I personally believe that one of the main components of Islam is Sharia Law. I also believe from what I've read (you can discount it if you like, I still believe this) that those behind this mosque would like to expand Sharia Law. Sharia Law is already talking place in Europe, so it could happen. I would hate to see that happen here.

I'm 100% for tolerance of religion which is evidenced by many of previous posts on other issues. However, when you tolerate one religion that believes in being intolerant to another you have major, major issues.

**collegetrumpet2010** · August 10th, 2010, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by R13

Paste it in and get the same thing, twisted quotes by right-wing and anti-islamic blogs. Should have listened to the Rabbi on CNN speak so highly of what he has done.

What's happened in Europe exactly? There's more instances of discrimination against muslims than elsewhere, that's what I've seen, I wouldn't want that happening here. But again, they make up a very tiny, tiny part of the population...a lot of uproar over nothing.

Is every quote that contradicts your arguments a quote twisted by right wingers?